In Reply to: 17000 murders in the US. 41000 deaths posted by Rangatira on Thursday, 27. November 2008 at 05:35 Bali Time:
regarding private gun ownership. I'd say most of those guns are owned by those Americans that voted for Bush and McCain. So if you're traveling to the U.S, just look at one of those maps that show whether a state is blue or red and avoid the red states. That way, you should avoid most of the guns. :)