OK so plane landed 2Omins early any other time I'd be happy but since we were landing at 4. O5 a 3.45 arrival was not to our advantage Anyway in less than 10mins we were processed, had bag and through customs.
Nothing to pay and nothing to declare.
unfortunately the shuttle bus that runs between the Low Cost Airport and KL International Airport doesn't operate unti 8am, so stumbled across some other people in same situation and shared a cab , cost myr68, myr34 per couple (A$11) took about 10-15mins?
Once inside KLIA its in the lift which is just inside the door and down to bottom level.
EKSPRES train starts at 5am,cost myr38, takes 28mins, train is spotlessly clean.
sorry but will continue later as battery light is flashing.