In Reply to: Perthkel....Please don't comment posted by Cyclone on Saturday, 29. January 2005 at 19:48 Bali Time:
dunno if you're aware of it (i wasn't for ages) but there's a 'search the forum' button at the top of the main btf page. Click on that and type in White Rose.
To get you started here's a good post i found.....